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Offline Smokey1913

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Re: Estimations on numbers...
« Reply #15 on: February 02, 2012, 03:17:09 PM »
Its been a while, but to rehash some of the estimations, I am trying to establish what taxes the business will be required to pay.  I have found a few websites that state the advertising, payroll, inventory (up to $125K), resale items (food, games), and maintenance items (cleaning supplies, etc.) are all deductible.  Does anyone know if this is accurate?  If not, what is deductible?

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Re: Estimations on numbers...
« Reply #16 on: February 02, 2012, 04:11:16 PM »
Unless someone here is a CPA or Tax Attorney, this may not be the best place to get into specifics on taxes and deductions as these will vary on many factors, starting with the type of business you form (sole prop, LLC, etc.). Local, city and state taxes and deductions vary also.

If you haven't already, ask around for some accountant/CPA recommendations and talk to them. Talk to all of them and see who you "click" with. If they try to charge you for face-time, keep looking. The right guy understands that you have the potential to start a long-term relationship so a few minutes of "free" advice is a small investment on his/her/their part.

Of course there is always Google for general info.

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Re: Estimations on numbers...
« Reply #17 on: February 02, 2012, 04:18:27 PM »
On the other hand, the guys who charge for face-time are generally veterans who know the tax codes and accounting upside down.  So it might be worth $50 to chat with one for an hour once you have enough information to know what you don't know.

Generally speaking, advertising/marketing is deductible as an expense, and sometimes your personal car gas/mileage if you use your vehicle for job-related activities (snacks, etc).  The cost of depreciating equipment is also a big one.

As for paying taxes, depending on your specific city/state, you may or may not be required to pay tax on time sold (which is classified as selling a service).  You will obviously have to pay taxes on any snacks and drinks sold.  If you own your own building, you will of course pay property taxes.

Any other taxes or write-offs will probably be very specific to the state/city you're in.

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Re: Estimations on numbers...
« Reply #18 on: February 02, 2012, 05:49:45 PM »
In Georgia you even get to pay taxes on stocked items. (and selling time and snacks)

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Re: Estimations on numbers...
« Reply #19 on: February 02, 2012, 07:56:19 PM »


Continual Bills
Monthly Advertising budget: I have $150.  Is this enough?
T1 Internet connection: I hear this is ~$500/mo. Is this accurate?
Electricity: $300/mo?
Insurance: $250/mo?
Maintenance (misc cleaning supplies, keyboards, mice, controllers, cables, etc.): $800/mo.
New Releases on games: $400/mo
Food Sales (concessions): $1500/mo.

$150 a month won't cover beyond some business cards and photocopying of signs you make yourself.  Unless you are going to be on a major roadway or shopping path that a $10K sign will bring people in, plan to spend 10 times that per month at a minimum.

T1 is the great fallback.  But $500 should be enough to get you a good enough connection in most cities.  In minor markets, triple that number.

Electricity?  Plan for $25 per machine per month.  You'll have lights and coolers to pay for, along with servers and whatever.  But that number works well as a shoddy guesstimate.

Maintenance:  $200 a month in cleaning supplies should suffice (bulk of which will be cleaning products).  Keyboards/mice/controllers, depends on your customer base.  I spent about $40 per machine per year on hardware replacements (not including core upgrades such as new machines or monitors). 

New Games:  If you think 7 games a month will suffice, power to you.  Better double that number.   I average something like $2K per month, but I am much more aggressive in buying games than most.

Food sales:  Doesn't matter because it's all guaranteed sale and you will make margins on every transaction. 


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Startup Bills
Electrical Rework: $700
Extra Controllers: 1 for every 3 stations.
Decorations: $3500?  Too high?
Central Server for PC's: $500 (Is this necessary) 

The lowest bill I've ever had for an electical buildout was $11K.  I don't think you can even buy enough extension cords and power bars for $700. 

Extra controllers:  I'd just have a box of 50 laying around.

$3500 in decorations:  That'll pay for the paint and a touch of signage.  Decorations aren't even in the running at that amount.

$500 server?    That won't even cover the hard drives.  You need redundancy, and redundancy ain't free.  Plus if you want to run Server 2008 or whatnot, $500 won't even get you the O/S.  $2000 minimum, though more is better because if it does down so does the business.

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Also, how much should I anticipate startup costs to be.  Right now, I am sitting around $100K, +-20K.  Is this realistic, or should I project around $250K, as mentioned in another thread?

$100K sitting in the bank with everything leased is doable.  $100K for everything will result in a sub-par store which will collapse.

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Re: Estimations on numbers...
« Reply #20 on: February 02, 2012, 09:52:53 PM »
Its been a while, but to rehash some of the estimations, I am trying to establish what taxes the business will be required to pay.  I have found a few websites that state the advertising, payroll, inventory (up to $125K), resale items (food, games), and maintenance items (cleaning supplies, etc.) are all deductible.  Does anyone know if this is accurate?  If not, what is deductible?

Thanks,

All accounting questions.  My accountant handled all of this.  if you don't have on on retainer at least get your quarterlies done by one.

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